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May 4, 2006 Minutes

May 17th, 2006



Carroll Planning Board
Meeting Minutes
May 4, 2006


“These minutes of the Town of Carroll Planning Board have been recorded by its Secretary. Though believed to be accurate and correct they are subject to additions,
deletions, and corrections by the Planning Board at its next meeting when the Board votes its final approval of the minutes. They are being made available at this time to conform to the requirements of New Hampshire RSAS 91-A:2.”


Members of the Board present: Chairman Birknes, Bill Wright, Evan Karpf, Ernie Temple, John Sweeney, Connie Oliver

Members of the Public: Jody Hodgdon, Mark Vander-Hayden, Laila Fekay, John Warren, Jerry Warren, Michael Palmer, Gardner Kellogg, Pat Lichtenwalner, Linda Webb, Bruce Seymourian, Harry J. Burgess, Donald Bouchard, Douglas Bews, Margaretha Birknes, Rosemarie G. Lynch, Paul L. Gamache, Patricia M. Camara, David Camara, Casey J. Hayes, Harold Garneau, John B. Deery, Allen Strasser, Mac McQueeney, Billy Rines, Cheryl Maker, John Olendrewicz, Brian Badger, Robert & Holly Richard, Wayne Presby, Charles Adams.

Minutes taken by Marcia Rouillard, Secretary:

Pledge of Allegiance

Meeting called to order at 7:01 PM

The Board reviewed the minutes of April 13, 2006. Chairman Birknes entertained a motion to accept the minutes with a correction to page 4, first paragraph. Ernie Temple made a motion to accept the minutes with the amended correction. Bill Wright seconded. All in favor the minutes were approved unanimously.

The Board met with Harry Burgess surveyor for Bruce Seymourian’s subdivision on Sugarloaf Drive. The Board reviewed the application for major subdivision behind Fun Town. The Board reviewed a letter sent by Provan and Lorber. Everything looking to be in order Chairman Birknes entertained a motion to accept the application as submitted. Ernie Temple moved the motion. Bill Wright seconded. All in favor the application was accepted unanimously. A public hearing is set for June 1.

The Board met with Gardner Kellogg for Ken Elworthy’s subdivision on Route 3. Test pits have been dug. They have been to Provan and Lorber but no letter has been received from them as yet. A letter from the Selectmen was sent saying town water was available.
Everything looks to be in order with the exception of the letter from Provan and Lorber. Chairman Birknes asked if they had checked with the 911 officer to clear the names of the roads. Gardner said he had but they will double check. Gardner also said they propose to put hydrants at each end of the cult a sac. Chairman Birknes asked if they had the Fire Chief look at it yet and if not he suggest they do. Test pits had been done with state approval. Dr. Karpf again suggested they verify the names with 911 officer. With no questions for the audience, board Chairman Birknes entertained a motion to accept the application pending approval from Provan and Lorber. Dr. Karpf moved the motion. Ernie Temple seconded. All in favor it was accepted unanimously. When the mylar comes in the Board will need to see a surety bond.

The Board met with Casey Hayes to approve a Boundary Line Adjustment between David & Patricia Camara and Donovan & Kim Durand Map 206 Lots 123.2 and 123.3
Chairman Birknes entertained a motion to accept as presented. Dr. Karpf accepted the motion. Ernie Temple seconded. All in favor it was approved as per plan.

The Board met with Mark Vander-Heyden for the subdivision for Michael & Patricia Rucci of Little River Road. They are subdividing their 9.5 lot into 2 lots. The house will be on 6.12 acres and the second lot will be 3.41 acres. Town water will be available to the second lot. Test pits have been done and state approved and meets all set backs. Chairman Birknes entertained a motion to accept. Ernie Temple so moved the motion. Dr. Karpf seconded. All in favor the subdivision was accepted.

The Board met with Gardner Kellogg to discuss application for Brian Badger for a 4 lot subdivision on Evans Road. Chairman Birknes said what we have here is one lot that is served by Serenity Lane. We need to know if the owner of lot 4 can pass and repass motor vehicles over Serenity Lane and if Serenity Lane is a sufficient roadway for those purpose including a fire truck to get up there. Jody Hodgdon, Attorney for Brian Badger, said there certainly is a right to pass over that piece of land, that’s what the access deed was to. I have not been up to examine the road but do know there was a approve subdivision on that road passes by this piece of land here so I assume if it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for this lot. Chairman Birknes asked if it have been recorded. It was determined that it was.
Chairman Birknes entertained motion to accept subdivision. Ernie Temple made the motion. Connie seconded. All in favor. The application was accepted. Billy Rines asked who would maintain the road. It needs to be addressed how they plan to maintain get to town specs. Chairman Birknes mentioned there are a number of house out there now, who maintains the road? Billy Rines did not know, they were not plowed and did not know how a fire truck would get in there. Chairman Birknes asked how he handled any private roads? If someone builds on a private road it’s their responsibility to maintain the road. Billy says they need to be made clear of that. Chairman Birknes said it will be in our minutes to show it is a private road and it is up to the owners that abut the road to maintain it, keep it plowed and passable. Mr. Richards said they do maintain the road in the winter. It’s plowed. They haven’t had any problems yet. Chairman Birknes entertained amendment to the motion that it is understood that lot 4 and other abutters to Serenity Lane have the responsibility to maintain and keep passable.
Ernie Temple made the motion to accept the amendment.
Dr. Karpf seconded.
All in favor the amendment carries unanimously.


The Board called on Colin Sutherland. He was not present.

The Board met with Jerry Warren to review application for Rivers Edge II on Route 3 South. Mr. Warren proposes to build a 24 unit condominium. State is working on septic plans. There is an easement for the state for snowmobile trail. There are 10 aces being turned over to the state for conservation with no conditions. Chairman Birknes will have Provan and Lorber look the plans over at applicant’s expense. Chairman Birknes entertained a motion to accept the application. Dr. Karpf moved the motion. John Sweeney seconded. All in favor the application was accepted.
Public hearing is set for June 1.

The Board met with Gardner Kellogg for Doug Bews to go over an application for minor subdivision. Mr. Bews is proposing to separate the house and pool with an annex on one lot. It will be served by town water. Chairman Birknes entertained a motion to accept the application. Dr. Karpf moved the motion. Ernie Temple seconded. All in favor the application was accepted. Public hearing is set for June 1.

Wayne Presby introduced Charles Adams one of the new owners of the Hotel. Mr. Adams is with Celebration Associates. Mr. Adams passed out handbooks and proceeded to give a history of the firms involved. Chairman Birknes asked what he thought the time frame would be on the construction. He had heard a few different times. Mr. Adams said they are working with the same concept plan and probable 12-15 yrs before it’s built out. Chairman Birknes explained we only had a part time building inspector, would this increase his hours?

In the concept plan it’s discussed there would be a police and fire station on a 2.8 acre parcel. This will need to be addressed. Mr. Adams said he knows it would be to the home owner’s advantage to have a fire station a short distance because of insurance and they certainly will look into that.

John Sweeney asked what they proposed to do for housing for the staff they plan on bringing in. Mr. Adams said they are looking for local and outside. We are looking at manager level housing but not a large number of people. They usually come in and work but don’t reside here. Mrs. Birknes asked size wise what you are looking at. Mr. Adams said about 450 single family and 50-75 apartments. Mrs. Birknes asked if they plan on building a village. Mr. Adams said they plan on building, retail, Post office, fire station, YMCA, library, restaurants, church and more. Connie Oliver asked what the building would look like. Mr. Adams said they would be beautiful buildings. They have been looking at post card pictures. They are into historical buildings. Mr. Deery said he had heard there would be two more hotels built with indoor water parks. Mr. Adams had no idea where that rumor had surfaced. He can’t say it will never be done, just haven’t gotten that far yet.
Mr. Adams says they may ask to shift a few things but are still planning on working with the existing concept plan.

The Board met with Laila Fekay. Laila plans on breaking ground next week for her new development behind Naturally New Hampshire. The Board explained that they will have Provan and Lorber look at the plans and set price for a surety bond.

The Board looked over correspondence.

John Warren asked about his property on Cherry Mountain Road. Chairman Birknes said the Fire Chief needs to look at the Hammer Head and see what zoning allows.

Chairman Birknes entertained motion to adjourn meeting
Ernie Temple moved the motion.
Dr. Karpf seconded.
All in favor the meeting was adjourned at 9:06

Meeting reopened at 9:07

Al Strasser wanted to discuss the ISO (Insurance Service Office)

Selectmen are looking into reopening Fieldstone Lane which was blocked a few years ago. It’s reopening is do to the insurance increase at Bretton Woods. The Selectmen want to give all road decisions to the Planning Board. Chairman Birknes said the Selectmen should send a letter to the Planning Board.

Chairman Birknes made motion to adjourn.
Dr. Karpf seconded.
All in favor the meeting was adjourned at 9:15