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Minutes from Dec. 2, meeting

December 9th, 2009

BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING

December 2, 2009

Members present: Carmine Fabrizio, Mike Shea, Lori Hogan, Becki Pike, Tom Gately and Bonnie Moroney.

Members excused: Jim Covey

Guests: Bill Dowling, Cindy Smith, and Bill Rines

7:00M meeting brought to order by Tom Gately.

Carmine motion to accept corrected minutes, Mike second and it passed

Tom asked Bill Dowling to present his proposed 2010 budget.

4324.10-100 - $29238.00
4324.10-101 - $11982.00
4324.10-102 - $4795.00
4324.10-200 - $150.00
4324.10-202 - $750.00 Bill says he tries to attend all the training that he’s needs and that Anita will need to be going to training as well.
4324.10-203 - $1224.00
4324.10-300 – $7800.00 Bill said last year he had 26 trips and already this year there has been 42 and at least 2 more before the end of this year. He said the price will be going up to $165.00 next year per trip.
4324.10-301 - $1.00
4324.10-302 - $700.00
4324.10-303 - $1.00
4324.10-304 - $27402.00 Bill said in 2008 he sent out 247.91 ton, and this year so far he has sent out 286.59 and is expecting to send out at least 358 ton in 2010. The price per ton is $72.90 and next year it will be $76.54
4324.10-305 - $1.00
4324.10-400 - $500.00 Bill said he wants to put gravel out back by the loading dock so that the trucks don’t get stuck in the mud.
4324.10-401 - $2500 Bill said this is for bailing wire, at $63.00 per spool and he used 15 spools this year, rubber gloves, hand wipes, gripple, summer gloves, and winter gloves.
4324.10-402 – $684.00 This is for gas and motor oil for bobcat, lawn mower, grease for bailer and filters for bobcat.
4324.10-403 - $200.00 this is for LP gas and gas for the lawn mower.
4324.10-404 - $5700.00 Bill said that he spends about $100.00 per month on electric but the rest of this is monthly payment that is due for the pole and construction of bringing the line over that can handle the load. He thought it was a 20 year note that the town was paying on.
4324.10-500 - $50.00
4324.10-505 - $2000.00
4324.10-515 - $500.00 Bill said that supplies consisted of hand soap, toilet and facial tissues, etc.
4324.10-100 - $800.00

Mike asked Bill more about the contract for the electric pole/line. Bill was not sure how much longer there was. Bonnie said that she would check with Maryclare to get more information.
Bill handed in his warrant articles as well and Bonnie will make copies for the committee to go over at a later date.

Cindy Smith was asked to present the proposed 2010 for the Town of Carroll Chamber.

4589.10-301 - $1000.00
4589.10-302 - $.00 Cindy asked to have this line removed.
4589.10-303 - $10,000.00
4589.10-304 - $2000.00 Cindy asked to have the account changed to Chamber of Commerce Entertainment.

Bill Rines was asked to present the proposed budgets for the Highway Dept., Water Dept., and the General Government Bldg.

Bill presented a list of the proposed budget for the water dept for 2010, and also the Highway/General Gov. Buildings.

4194.10-100 – Bonnie explained to Bill that the committee had voted last week to make this $7000.00, did he have a problem with that amount. He said no.
4194.10-101 – Bonnie explained that committee had voted to make this $5,000.00 last week also.
4194.10-102 – $1,000.00 Bill said that they are planning on doing the fencing around the basketball court and also finish the boys bathroom.
4194.10-200 - $5000.00 Lori asked to revisit this as the committee had voted in $2,500.00 and after hearing what Bill had planned to do wanted to look at it again. Bill said he wanted to pour a pad and start to run the conduit for a future generator. He said if they had the pad at least they could hook up a portable one if needed, for now.
4194.10-410 - $12,000.00
4194.10-411 - $33,000.00 Bonnie told Bill that the committee had voted last week to take this line down to $28,000.00 as there was only $21,475.00 used so far in 2009, and the new furnace in the town hall had decrease the amount of fuel consumed there. Bill had no problem with that.
4194.10-412 - $2500.00 It was asked why there had only been $25.94 spent this year and if the furnaces had been serviced. Bill said yes but was not sure about the PD, he said the others had been done back in July and didn’t know why it didn’t show up on the budget.
4194.10-430 - $50,000.00 Bill was informed that the committee had voted to take this amount down to $30,000.00 last week and he said he was fine with that.
4194.10-440 Bill said that were planning on doing the fencing, but was not sure of the price. He said he had looked at some fencing, but it was to poor of quality for this. He suggested dropping it down to $1,000.00.
4194.10-450 Bill said he had no idea what the rent would be, Bonnie said that was all taken care of last week.
4194.10-610 Bill said that he wasn’t sure if they should have a supply line for the Highway Dept.
but Bonnie said at this late date it was best to leave as it is, and keep track this coming year on what they use and then have a better idea for t 2011.
4194.10-700 and 900 had been set by the committee the week before and Bill was fine with the amounts.

Highway Department
Bill said that he didn’t put anything in for the salaries, as he wasn’t sure what to do, Bonnie said that is fine.
4312.10-200 Bill said he wanted to leave the $1200.00 in there, but that he thought it should be going down as they changed to Time Warner, but Jeff was checking on that now, as the price per month ended up being different then what was agreed on.
4312.10-201 Bill said that he wanted to get a ban saw, as they had been using his and he wanted to take it home. Most of them cost about $2,100.00
4312.10-202 Bill wanted to leave a $500.00
4312.10-250 He had nothing that he was looking to purchase so he said to take it to $1.00
4312.10-260 Bill said he had no idea if the new truck would pass this year, so he wanted to have $20,000.00 in the event that the trucks and equipment needed work.
4312.10-271 Bill wanted $850.00 because he thought he had to renew the license but Bonnie said that she thought it had already been done, as the PD had come before the Board and needed to have theirs done and told us that the HWY needed theirs done too. So then he took it down to
$250.00
4312.10-300 $1.00
4312.10-301 $1.00
4312.10-302 Bill said like most things the price is going up, so he was asking for $1,000.00
4312.10-303 $5,000
4312.10-304 $10,000.
4312.10-305 $1,500.00
4312.10-306 $3,000.00 Bill said that there are several places that need to have the culverts
replaced on Tuddle Brook and Parker Rd.. The price right now for culvert is about $230.00 for 20 feet.
4312.10-307 $5,000.
4312.10-308 $7,000. Bill said that right now we are using about 30 ton and its$98.00 per ton.
4312.10-309 $5,000. Gravel is $200.00 per load.
4312.10-310 $1.00
4312.10-311 $3,500.00 Bill said the guy was suppose to be sending him a contract for 2010, but
he hadn’t received it yet.
4312.10-350 $10,000.00
4312.10-360 $3,000. Bill said that we were still under contract and they also were looking into getting some rain gear for the three of them.
4312.10-900 $15,000.
4312.10-902 $1.00

Water Department
Bonnie addressed that the select board had gone over Bill’s figures and changed them because they are restructuring the water dept. She said that they wanted to stay need the total from the 2009 budget in order to make it easier to set the rates for the meters, rather then increasing the amount each year. She also explained that they would be using the Clerical line more as this person would be doing the billing, making appointments, helping with the meter readings, etc.

The committee thanked our guests and proceeded to vote on the presented budgets.
General Building
4194.10-102 $1,000. Bonnie motioned Becki second and it passed.
4194.10-200 Lori motioned to take the amount up to $3,000. to cover the costs Carmine second.
Tom motioned to accept at the $3,000.00 Carmine second and it passed.
4194.10-412 $1,500 Mike motioned to accept, Carmine second and it passed.
4194.10-440 $2,500.00 Lori motioned and Carmine second and it passed.
Highway
4312.10-200 thru 201 Lori motioned to accept as submitted, Mike second and it passed.
4312.10-202 Tom motioned to take it down to $250.00. there was no second. Bonnie motioned to leave at $500.00 as Scott is now the water dept. and may need to get tools so that he will have some when the Highway Dept. is doing something else.
4312.10-250 thru 260 Carmine motioned to accept as submitted, Lori second and it passed.
4312.10-271 thru 301 Lori motioned to accept as submitted, Becki second and it passed.
4312.10-302 thru 311 Lori motioned to accept as submitted, Mike second and it passed.
4312.10-350 Tom motioned to take down to $9,000.00, Lori second and it passed, Bonnie abstained.
4312.10-360 thru 900 Lori motioned to accepted as submitted, Mike second and it passed.
4312.10-901 Lori motioned to defer until the bill comes in for what was done this year, Carmine second and it passed.
4312.10-902 Lori motioned to accept as submitted, and Becki second and it passed.

Solid Waste
4324.10-102 After much discussion Becki motioned to take this down to $500.00, Carmine second and it passed, Bonnie abstained.
4324.10-200 thru 202 Lori motioned to accepted as submitted, Carmine second and it passed.
4324.10-203 Bonnie motioned to leave at $1,000.00 Mike second and it passed.
4324.10-300 Tom motioned to take down to $5,000.00, Carmine second and it passed.
4321.10-301 thru 303 Tom motioned to accept as submitted, Mike second and it passed.
4324.10-304 Carmine motioned to take it down to $20,000.00 Mike second and it passed.
4324.10-305 Tom motioned to take this to $.00 Mike second and it passed.
4324.10-400 Mike motioned to accept as submitted, Lori second and it passed.
4324.10-401 Lori motioned to take it down to $1.00, Carmine second and it passed. They moved part of the money down to supplies as they didn’t feel that this was equipment.
4324.10-402 Tom motioned to take this down to $500.00, Carmine second and it passed.
4324.10-403 Tom motioned to take this down to $150.00, Carmine second and it passed.
4324.10-404 this was tabled until Bonnie can find out from Maryclare how much we still owe on this loan part of this line item.
4324.10-500 Lori motioned to accept as submitted, Becki second and it passed.
4324.10-505 Tom motioned to take this down to $1,800., Lori second and it passed.
4324.10-515 part of the money requested under the equipment line was moved to this line. Tom motioned to put in a total of $1,500.00, Mike second and it passed.
4324.10-100 Mike motioned to take this down to $500.00, Carmine second and it passed.

Chamber of Commerce

4589.10-301 Bonnie motioned to accept as submitted, Becki second and it passed, Tom abstained.
4589.10-302 they wanted removed.
4589.10-303 Tom motioned to take it down to just the salary, but there was no second.
Bonnie motioned to accept as submitted, Lori second and it passed, Tom abstained.
4589.10-304 Lori said that we should leave the account name as it is, Carmine second and it passed. Lori motioned to accept the amount as submitted, Carmine second and it passed, Tom abstained.

Water Dept.
Lori motioned to visit this at a later date to be voted on. Becki second and it passed.

Bonnie brought up the fact that she had a event that she wished to attend so would not be at the Dec. 16th meeting, so did somebody want to take the minutes or change the meeting night. The committee wanted to change the meeting to Dec. 17th instead.

Lori motioned to adjourn the meeting at 9:20PM and Becki second, and it passed.

Next meeting is Dec. 9, 2009 with Fire Dept., Ambulance and Emergency Management
with their proposed 2010 budgets.


Jim will not be back till Dec. 9, 2009