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8/05/2010 PLBD Minutes

August 27th, 2010

Carroll Planning Board
Meeting Minutes
August 5, 2010


“These minutes of the Town of Carroll Planning Board have been recorded by its Secretary. Though believed to be accurate and correct they are subject to additions,
deletions and corrections by the Planning Board at its next meeting when the Board votes its final approval of the minutes. They are being made available at this time to conform to the requirements of New Hampshire RSAS 91-A: 2.”

Members of the Board present: Chairman John Birknes, Evan Karpf, Charlie Cohn, Frank Maturo, Ernie Temple, Donna Foster, Bonnie Moroney


Member of the Public present: Joan Karpf (filming), Keith Bergeron, Karen and Henry Wante, Mike Rouilard, Dan and Edith Tucker, Bill Rines, Skip Marie, (new Pastor of the Baptist Church, did not get name), Andy and Barbara Martel, Keith Bergeron

Minutes taken by Rena Vecchio, Secretary

Pledge of Allegiance

Chairman John Birknes declared there was a quorum and opened the meeting at 7:00 pm. The Chair asked for the minutes of July 20, 2010 to be considered and if there were no changes he would entertain a motion. Charlie Cohn made a motion to accept the minutes of July 20, 2010 as written. Ernie Temple seconded and the motion passed with six voting yes and Bonnie Moroney abstaining as she was not at that meeting.

Chairman Birknes was handed a packet along with the board members on the “Off Street Parking” of the Zoning Ordinance, Section 405, page 19, and the “Parking Space Requirements” of the Site Plan Review Regulations, VI. General Standards, page 8, and the minutes of the PLBD, April 1, 2010. The secretary wanted the board to know that at the past meeting, July 20, 2010, a Special Meeting held for Keith and Brenda Bergeron, Brenda’s Country Kitchen and Inn, Evan Karpf had kept referring to the parking regulations and “.. the parking spaces had to be a minimum of 10’x 20’ for one parking spot.” And also taken from the minutes, “...Evan wanted to make sure that each space would be 10’ x 20’.” The secretary wanted to bring to the board’s attention that the Site Plan Review Regulations and the Zoning Regulations stated conflicting parking space requirements. She does not believe that the PLBD can hold Keith and Brenda Bergeron to the 10’ x 20’ requirements of the Zoning Ordinance because of that conflict. The PLBD does intend to bring forth a Warrant Article for the March vote.

Evan Karpf said he had gone to the Bergeron’s and helped Keith measure the parking spaces. He said he meets or exceeds the parking requirements. He also stated that he had gone into the building and found it very comfortable looking and very clean.

Chairman Birknes wanted the public to know that the use of the building was not that great a change in use but it was more of an addition of seats and a bar. The board wanted to make sure that the parking was adequate.

John Birknes decided to move on to the Site Plan Review for the Bretton Woods Telephone Company, Map 210, Lot 009, 311 Mount Washington Road, Bretton Woods, NH. Mike Rouillard, Outside Plant Manager for the company, was at the May 12, 2010 meeting requesting a permit to install a prefabricated, reinforced, modular concrete building. Karen Wante, VP of Operations, representing the telephone company, along with Mike, came before the board tonight with the site plan and a letter from CNL Lifestyle Properties, owners of the land, stating they “..concur with BW Telephone Co.’s building permit, building site selection, and screening methods.” (A copy of the letter and plan will be attached to the minutes in the office.) Karen went on to say the building is not office space. It is a switching station or a home for the fiber optics. They will not be loosing parking spaces, just a little grass. They have received a grant from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in the amount of approximately $985,000.00.

The Chair asked if anyone had any questions. Edith Tucker of Salmon Press, Courier and the Democrat, asked what the buildings will look like. Karen said it was a precast building that will house the electronics. Edith asked if it would have a pitched roof and if siding would be added. She said the board had passed an Architectual Design Regulation several years ago and was wondering how a precast concrete building would fit in to the area. Chairman Birknes said it would not interfere with what is there now. Edith said then all the shutters, façade and muted colors that had been talked about for this ordinance doesn’t apply to this? John said that is not exactly true. This is not a building for occupancy. She said she did not think that was all the regulation spoke to. Evan said it was more about commercial buildings. Donna Foster said she felt that this building would be a special exception where it is not a commercial or residential building and it had no windows. Karen said the building is not visible from the road, that it is basically hidden. The new building will be replacing a trailer. John then read a letter from the NH Division of Historical Resources, stating “…that the undertaking, as proposed, will have No Adverse Effect, .. on the Mount Washington Hotel.” (Copies will be attached to the minutes in the office.)

Donna Foster made a motion to: approve the Site Plan. Bonnie Moroney seconded and the motion passed unanimously.

Keith Bergeron arrived a few minutes after seven and apologized to the board for being late. Chairman Birknes asked Keith what the status of the business was. Keith handed in a sketch of the parking lot and said that he could get 18, 10’ x 20’ parking spaces on each side. Evan said he had checked out the lighting when he was there, saw the new facility and addressed the issues he had.

John Birknes wanted to know how the egress and ingress was. Evan said the parking lot was okay, but wanted to know about the little circular drive directly in front of the Inn. Keith said that is basically not used. John also asked about the signs and any improvements that would be made.

The Chair asked if there were any question and addressed Skip Marie representing the Baptist Church. The Pastor said they were there with concerns that it would be more of a bar then a restaurant. They were also concerned about the noise level during services and the safety of the children. Both the Pastor and Skip Marie said they have been talking to Keith about things and they were just here to see what was going on and they have not had a problem with the business yet at all. Keith said he would make sure to keep the noise level down by not having any outdoor seatings during the hours of the church services. The hours are:

• Wednesday nights – 6:45 pm till 8:30 pm
• Sunday mornings – 10:00 am till 12:00 pm
• Sunday evenings – 6:00 pm till 8:30 pm

The Pastor said that now they have saw horses up to separate the two driveways and in the future they may try to put up two poles with a chain across it so that it would look nicer.

Evan Karpf asked Keith if there were any issues with the state and the driveway entrance. Keith said he was not aware of any. Bill Rines suggested to just get in touch with them to make sure. Bill said they probably don’t care but they like to know what is going on. Evan Karpf also suggested to Keith that maybe he would not serve alcohol to anyone sitting outside during the church service hours. Keith said he does not have a problem with that.

Evan Karpf made a motion to: accept the Site Plan for Keith Bergeron regarding his restaurant and lounge, subject to no alcoholic beverages being served outside during the hours stipulated:
• Wednesday evenings – 6:45 pm till 8:30 pm
• Sunday mornings – 10:00 am till 12:00 pm
• Sunday evenings – 6:00 pm till 8:30 pm
That he gets approval from the town code enforcer, and complies with any state requirements in regards to the entrance to the facility. Ernie Temple seconded and the motion passed unanimously.

Andy and Barbara Martel wanted to say that they were abutters to Keith, the restaurant. They have been working with Keith and fully support him.

The Chair said there was one more item. Evan Karpf presented to the board a form for a concern or complaint on a project going on in town. This form will give credibility to the concern instead of Stan having to run around for possibly no reason at all. Evan said that Stan recommended that he bring the form to the PLBD. Evan said he would recommend that they add a signature line on the bottom of the form and then a box to check if they want to remain anonymous. John Birknes said that maybe we could say that it would hold more weight if it is signed. The secretary said that if she had known that this was going to be brought up tonight she would have brought in the copy of the National Code that Stan had brought in to her to show that he has the right to stop anywhere if there is a building permit out on the property. Edith Tucker wanted to know what if there is no building permit? John said you are talking about someone that wears two hats. He works as a building inspector and a code enforcer for the selectman. So Edith wanted to know if he could go to anyone’s property if a building permit is out or not. John said he did not want to speak for Counsel.

Evan Karpf made a motion to: make a recommendation to the Select Board to adopt the incident report form. Donna Foster seconded and the motion passed with 6 voting yes and Bonnie Moroney abstaining.

Evan Karpf made a motion to adjourn. Ernie Temple seconded and the motion passed unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 7:50.

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