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12-16-2010 PLBD Minutes

February 8th, 2011

Carroll Planning Board
Meeting Minutes
December 16, 2010


“These minutes of the Town of Carroll Planning Board have been recorded by its Secretary. Though believed to be accurate and correct they are subject to additions,
deletions and corrections by the Planning Board at its next meeting when the Board votes its final approval of the minutes. They are being made available at this time to conform to the requirements of New Hampshire RSAS 91-A: 2.”

Members of the Board present: Vice Chair Evan Karpf, Frank Maturo, Donna Foster, Bonnie Moroney, Erik Bergum


Member of the Public present: Joan Karpf (filming), Steve Boulanger, Andy Nadeau

Minutes taken by Rena Vecchio, Secretary

Pledge of Allegiance

Vice-chair Evan Karpf declared there was a quorum and opened the meeting at 7:01 pm. The Vice-chair asked for the minutes of:
• October 7, 2010 to be considered. He said there were a few questions he had on these minutes during the November meeting, but said he found that he had been mistaken and was ready to accept the minutes if no one else had any changes or corrections. Bonnie Moroney made a motion to accept the minutes of October 7, 2010 as written. Frank Maturo seconded and the motion passed unanimously.
• November 4, 2010 to be considered. Erik Bergum made a motion to accept the minutes of November 4, 2010 as written. Frank Maturo seconded and the motion passed unanimously.
• December 2, 2010 to be considered. Erik Bergum made the motion to accept the minutes of December 16, 2010 as written. Frank Maturo seconded and the motion passed with four voting yes and Bonnie Moroney abstaining, as she was not at the meeting.

Vice-chair Karpf said that regarding correspondence, he was giving to the secretary a copy of “Standard Dredge & Fill Application, Town of Carroll and Donald Gadbois, Old Town Road Culvert Removal.” This was prepared for the Town by Horizons Engineering. The copy will be in the office and can be viewed by the public.

The Bretton Woods Land Co., LLC, was in for the approval of their Application for a Minor Subdivision, Map 211, Lots 20 & 20.2. The main purpose of this subdivision of the “Lake Carolyn” parcel is to create a separate parcel which will include the snowmaking ponds and to create a lease parcel for the overflow parking. Andrew Nadeau, of Horizons Engineering, will represent the Bretton Woods Land Co., LLC.
Evan Karpf addressed Andy Nadeau first about the notice in the papers. They had been done in a timely fashion, but the ad had said it was a Major Subdivision instead of a Minor. The vice-chair asked Andy if that wording was alright with him. He said he had no issue with that. Vice-chair Karpf said the application has been approved and fees paid. The only other issue to be brought to their attention is that a few of the abutters that had been listed to be notified, Bretton Woods Land Co., LLC, of Hot Springs, Va. and Bretton Woods Sports Complex (same owners) were returned to the office. They were refused due to “insufficient address” and refused at the Omni Hotel also. Andy Nadeau said he saw no problem as they are all owned by the same company and the board had no problem either. Donna Foster made a motion to: proceed with the Minor Subdivision for the Bretton Woods Land Co., LLC. Bonnie Moroney seconded and the motion passed unanimously. Evan Karpf asked the secretary to resend the returned letters with correct addresses. Andy Nadeau said they would be responsible for the fees, as they were the ones that had given the incorrect addresses.

Andy handed out the new maps for the board to see. He said this is basically an administrative “housekeeping” move to delineate the CNL properties (or amenity properties) from Bretton Woods Land Co. (or raw land to be developed in the future). They would like to take the Lake Carolyn/snowmaking ponds parcel and separate it from Bretton Woods Land and have it conveyed to CNL as an amenity to the ski mountain. They would in addition like to take the other parcel and create for future use either in a deed or easement to CNL for overflow parking. There are no construction plans for this parcel but it has been used already as overflow parking.

Evan Karpf said he wants the board to be appraised of any permitting for environmental or human safety issues. He would like the board to aware of any state issues or permits. Andy stated that this is more about real estate closings at this point, not planning. They know they will have to come before the board with any changes or developments. The road to the snowmaking ponds will not be for public use but for maintenance use only.

Donna Foster asked who was the Cobalt abutter, she thought that maybe Mark Catalano was the owner of the Irving Station in Bretton Woods. Andy said Cobalt of Canada was what was listed by the town as the owner of the Irving Station property. The secretary relayed to the board that the Cobalt company had called the office and had asked what exactly was going on with the minor subdivision. When explained the proposal at that time being offered, he said they had no issues at all with that.

Evan then asked Andy if he was familiar with the Planning and Zoning Regulations. Andy said yes. Evan then asked if there were any violations to them in this application. Andy said not that he was aware of.

Vice-chair Karpf asked if the board had any other questions. There being none, he asked the public if they had any questions. There were none.

Donna Foster made a motion to: approve the Minor Subdivision for Bretton Woods Land Co., LLC, Map 211, Lots 20 & 20.2, Bretton Woods, N.H. with the following conditions:
• If there are any developments or improvements, a site plan must be brought to the PLBD
• All proper permitting, State and DES approvals will be forwarded to the Town of Carroll office to be placed in the file for this Subdivision
Erik Bergum seconded and the motion passed unanimously.


Next on the agenda the PLBD will consider the approval of an Application for a Major Subdivision, for William R. and Craig C. Swanson, 140 Old Cherry Mountain Road South, Bretton Woods, NH, Map 419, Lot 14. The main purpose of the subdivision will be to take one 3.6 acre lot and divide it into 3 lots. Steve Boulanger, of Boulanger Consulting, will be representing the Swanson’s. This is zoned R2.

The parents of William and Craig owned the land and the two brothers own it now. On the 3.6 acre lot is a trailer and septic system. Steve Boulanger said that they have the state approval for the subdivision and the town should have a copy. The secretary confirmed and the Approval for Subdivision number is SA2010009509, issued on November 15, 2010.

Bonnie Moroney asked if this lot is on the part of the road that is closed. Steve showed her on the map that the lot was below the gate that the state closes for the winter season. The next question was who owned the road. The secretary stated that last spring Jeff Duncan, Fire Chief, had questions on that. She had called DOT in Lancaster and talked to Leon Giles. He told her that the State issues the driveway permits for that road. On those permits it is stated that they are building on a non-maintained road and they have to sign it. So it was her understanding that the state owned the road. Then the question of who maintained it, or if it was maintained, was asked. Bonnie Moroney said that there are some families that have lived there year round for a while and maybe they maintain it. Evan Karpf said that the town is not supposed to be plowing a Class 6 roads. And this is a State Road he said. He then read from the State RSA’s for Land Use Planning, page 499, 674:41. Evan gave Steve a copy of what he read and a copy of an agreement from LGC that they may be required to be signed. It is to note that the town is not responsible for emergency services. It is a waiver for the town and this will eventually have to be in the deeds.

Vice-chair Karpf asked the board to continue the public hearing to give the chair, secretary or anyone else the opportunity to contact the state to see if it is within our legal boundaries to have this document from LGC signed to protect us from liability.

Bonnie Moroney made a motion to: continue the Public Hearing on the Swanson Major Subdivision, Map 419, Lot 14, Bretton Woods, NH until January 6, 2011. Erik Bergum seconded and the motion unanimously.

Erik Bergum made a motion to: adjourn the meeting. Bonnie Moroney seconded and the motion unanimously. The meeting ended at 7:43.